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Paying to Speak? No Thanks C.A.P.S.

I received an email a few minutes ago from a great friend, that I’ll leave out of this because I’m about to rant… he forwarded me a “Request for Speakers” email he received from the Canadian Association of Professional Speakers about their upcoming annual conference. He thought the theme suited my style (one of the reasons I think he’s great) so I clicked on the link.

I’m not a members of C.A.P.S. but thought I could bring some value to an event with an audience of speakers since I talk both about “Viral Marketing for Speakers” and that social media thingie… besides, with a book coming out in the fall I’m always interested in spreading the UnGospel and potentially waiving my fee. I’ve gotten high paying keynote gigs using multiple online methods and thought I could share those tools with my fellow Canadian audience.

I went in assuming what most conferences do: the keynotes got paid and the workshop/concurrent ones most likely didn’t. Maybe travel was covered, but wasn’t holding my breath. Then I saw this clause:

“If my presentation is accepted, I understand and agree that as a CAPS presenter, I must:

2. Register and pay to attend the convention (note: if you are coming to the convention only for your presentation, you can register and pay for that day only.  There are no half-day or individual session registrations).”

So, the main association in charge of helping speakers create a business out of the craft not only doesn’t pay or reimburse the people who speak at the event, they also make you pay to speak! Imagine if they allowed you to pay just to attend your own session!! That would be uber-awesome… I’m picturing you walking in, sitting down and saying “this better be good” and then standing up to present.

But wait! There’s more! If you’re lucky enough to be chosen to pay to bring value to their event, they also allow you to let them sell your seminar recording!

I authorize CAPS to market, sell and promote the presentation, in any form, to CAPS or International Federation members and non-members.

So, let us run this down: you the speaker brings the content, pay to get there, to stay there, pay to attend and they can use/profit/give away the recordings of your session?

Normally I would let this go under “it’s their conference, let em do whatever the hell they want” but this is supposed to be the place where you can go to educate and guide you in your speaking career. Where you can go to learn how to value what you do as a business.

Sadly, I’m learning as I write this, from tweets that other speaking org’s do this as well.

Come on.

I understand that some associations are non-profit, but your business is not.
Thoughts on paying to speak? Ever run into this? Comment below!

+++UPDATE+++

Alan Stevens, who is President-Elect Global Speakers Federation, in response to my question of why pay to speak replied in a tweet:

“All pro speakers pay to attend the national convention. Being selected to speak is an honour. We all give back”

I’m all for being “grateful” in being selected to speak, and I repay that with bringing the value of my content. the “we all give back” line made my stomach feel a little “yacky”. It makes it sound like we’re saving orphans.

I can see the telethon now “For only $1 a day, for 500 days, you can give back to the association that you’ve already paid to be a member of.”

Never forget this fellow speakers: it’s never your “honour” to go into debt to speak. And paying to register for the event you speak at is the highest form of arrogance any organization can take. Shame on them.

***UPDATE***

I’d like to thank the people who have commented from all sides of this issue. From the people who are involved in running CAPS, to people who have spoke at it, to those who were amazed by this issue and everyone who took the time to not only add to my original post, but make it 10x better with their thoughtful comments.Special thanks go to Randy Gage as well, whose comments not only were in great value, but gave a look at all sides of the issue.

I want to clarify a few things that have gotten lost within the comments, either because of some great responses by Alan Stevens, who is President-Elect Global Speakers Federation, or by some of my initial assumptions. Although these don’t change the fact that I have a fundemental issue with a speaker paying a registration fee for an event they provide value at and the fact that CAPS says they retain the right to sell your session recording outside of the membership, this needs to be said:

1. The event itself is run by volunteers and speakers themselves. The event is only open to members of CAPS, those of which can only be members if they meet certain qualifications (paid gigs etc…)

2. If an outside speaker is brought in, they are not made to pay the registration fee and usually have expenses covered as well.

3. CAPS and other speaking associations are mostly run by people who really give a damn about the profession, as witnessed by the comments below.

And although I’m sure I won’t be invited to speak at any speaker association event anytime soon, we’re on the same side. I really really give a damn about other speakers. And just like many of you, am tired of the same old, same old that happens out there. If something smells off to me, I want people to know and be a voice to those who may want to speak out.

A few unsolicited suggestions from me though:

1. Clearly state in the request for speakers exactly what Alan stated below, that the majority of of people going to the event are also running the event and every needs to pay the registration, or the cost to attend would be in the thousands.

2. Getting a sponsor to cover the registration amount for the speakers who are actually doing stand-alone presentations. Being the association that helps speakers respect their fee’s, you need to set an example for other associations.

3. Don’t ask for rights to sell the session content outside of the membership.

Thank-you all again, you’re the reason I write this blog.

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Lori

    This is how some people are, who are all about the “big buck”. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.rnrnIts a pretty mixed up world here. rnIf there was food/alcohol there, I understand that a fee may need to be paid, but if you’re the speaker ” the guest of honor”, they should be picking up that charge as well. rnrnThe rationalisation on this one really shows you who you’re dealing with. Let’s call it integrity. I know of several other groups that ask you to join for a certain amount annually, then you have only to find out later that there is a fee involved for the meal, and you see the same people time after time. Is that networking, if you’re not meeting and engaging new people? I think not.rn rnI’ve smelled rats before and “we” at least know now, what true greed is.rn

  • Ned Barnett

    I used to speak a lot for money – my career path went in different directions, but I’m thinking of going back to that arena, so this was particularly interesting to me. I’ve also been an association executive and have run many programs where we had speakers.nnWhen a speaker has the chance to profit from the speech (i.e., he’s a vendor or an author who’ll be selling and signing books onsite), I have a different take – but for the most part, i think that groups which need speakers for content should pay – at least expenses. When money is an issue, give them a free pass to the whole event and an 8×10 booth.nnPersonally, I find it disrespectful for a speaker’s org not paying speakers. Like the labor union which won’t allow it’s admin staff to organize themselves. It seems odd, out of synch, disrespectful of the essence of the business.nnIf I’m speaking at a group that interests me, paying my way and allowing me to stay for the entire program (and hang around, networking with people who want to hang with speakers) is worthwhile compensation. BUT if I have to pay to be there, I’d damned well better have something to sell to make it worth my while.nnHowever, for the host group to be able to sell the talk, all the groups do it and have done it since the 70s. It’s part of the background, part of the way the hosts pay the freight. I don’t sweat it. But if they’re going to do that, all the more reason why they should pay you.nnOr me.nnNed BarnettnLas Vegas

  • Anonymous

    I know I’m very late into this conversation – I bought your new book “UnMarketing” a month ago, so started following you a few months ago. LOVE your style, Scott. As someone who has planned events via the corporate world, Personally if I feature a speaker, I would not expect the speaker to pay. It is actually an HONOR if the speaker agrees to come to the event, so covering travel, hotel, and accommodations are the norm. I can understand if the conference is run by volunteers, but a featured speaker should not have to pay (my 2cents)

    • Never too late for an awesome comment Ana! Thanks 🙂

  • A thoughtful insight and ideas I will use on my blog. You’ve obviously spent some time on this. Well done!

  • Debbie Wpf

    I just read that you are coming to be the keynote speaker at the FEO (Festival Events Ontario) in March 2012.  I attended last years conference and found a lot of interesting things to take back to our non-profit organization, however the thing I wanted the most was info on Social Media.  The person that they had doing it was (being politically correct, not to mention too long to write about, but I did inform the FEO my opinion) a total waste of my time.  So when I just read their email stating you were the keynote speaker, I had to look you up.  I have just spend approx the past 2 hours reading your info.  I am now very much looking forward to conference.   I hope that you are the one doing the Social Media session also. 

  • julie

    Did they also ask you to sweep the floor? Oh wait, they pay someone to do that. http://www.speakersponsor.com

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